“What should I do if my school does not offer any AP/IB or even honors classes at all? I want to get into a good college and I’m afraid that I won’t be able to because of this.” (Quora Post)



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Recently, The Ivy Institute was asked this question on Quora, and we felt it would be beneficial to a far wider audience—particularly because we encounter this question a lot from students, especially those in rural school settings or urban schools with less resources.

So, if your school offers little to no AP/IB courses, will it hurt your chances of college acceptance?

The short answer is no.

It's important to note that colleges use a comprehensive approach when evaluating applicants. They take multiple elements into account, including your academic performance concerning the educational opportunities provided by your school. The absence of AP/IB or honors courses at your institution will not be held against you. Admissions committees recognize that not all high schools can offer these programs, and they evaluate your abilities and potential within the context of the resources only available to you.

With that said, what truly distinguishes successful college applicants is their proactive attitude towards learning and their dedication to self-improvement. Whether a school has 0 AP/IB classes or over 20 (and everything between), colleges will look to see how a student first maximized all of the options at their school and then sought opportunities beyond their school’s limitations. Given that a school doesn't offer advanced classes, a student has a unique opportunity to distinguish themself by going above and beyond to demonstrate their commitment to academic excellence.

At The Ivy Institute, we highly recommend exploring dual enrollment classes, summer courses at a community college, and online, self-paced AP or college-credit courses. Organizations like BYU Independent Study offer a wide range of AP classes that a student can complete at their own pace. This not only showcases a student’s passion for learning but also highlights their ability to handle challenging coursework independently.

Furthermore, a student in this situation might consider enrolling in online college-credit courses, such as those provided by the Harvard Extension School. These courses provide valuable exposure to college-level material and underscore a student’s readiness for the academic demands of higher education.

By taking these proactive measures, students not only enrich their knowledge and skills but also present themselves as a determined and motivated learner. This proactive approach can significantly enhance a student’s college application, making them a more competitive candidate.


Here is a list of colleges and organizations that offer online, self-paced AP and college-credit courses for high school students, along with their respective links:

  1. BYU Independent Study

  2. Harvard Extension School

  3. Stanford Online High School

  4. Johns Hopkins Center for Talented Youth (CTY)

    • Website: Johns Hopkins CTY

    • Courses: Provides online courses for academically gifted students, including advanced options.

  5. Excel High School

    • Website: Excel High School

    • Courses: Excel High School offers fully accredited online, self-paced AP, and ACE college-credit courses for high school students.

  6. Indiana University High School

  7. University of California, Irvine Division of Continuing Education

    • Website: UC Irvine DCE

    • Courses: Provides online college-credit courses for high school students.

  8. Penn Foster High School

    • Website: Penn Foster High School

    • Courses: Offers a range of online high school courses, including those at the college-credit level.

  9. K12

    • Website: K12

    • Courses: Provides online high school courses, some of which are advanced.

  10. Michigan Virtual School

  11. EdX

    • Website: EdX

    • Courses: Provides online courses from universities worldwide, including some at the college-credit level.

Please note that the availability of courses may vary by institution and location, so it's advisable to visit their respective websites for the most up-to-date information on course offerings and enrollment details.

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border-radius: 999px; background: rgba(255,255,255,.34); box-shadow: inset 0 1px 3px rgba(37,57,76,.05), 0 1px 0 rgba(255,255,255,.20); transition: background-color .18s ease, border-color .18s ease; } #ivy-article-dock .iad-field:focus-within { background: rgba(255,255,255,.56); border-color: rgba(122,95,55,.55); } #ivy-article-dock .iad-input { display: block; flex: 1 1 0%; min-width: 0; width: 0; height: 46px; padding: 8px 13px; margin: 0; border: 0; border-radius: 999px; background: transparent; color: var(--iad-ink) !important; caret-color: var(--iad-ink); font-size: 16px; line-height: 22px; box-shadow: none; outline-offset: 2px; appearance: none; -webkit-appearance: none; } #ivy-article-dock .iad-input::placeholder { color: var(--iad-muted); opacity: 1; font-size: 12px; } #ivy-article-dock .iad-submit { display: grid; place-items: center; flex: 0 0 40px; width: 40px; height: 40px; padding: 0; margin: 0 2px 0 0; border: 1px solid rgba(255,255,255,.61); border-radius: 999px; background: rgba(255,255,255,.40); box-shadow: 0 2px 5px rgba(23,42,62,.07), inset 0 1px 0 rgba(255,255,255,.72); transition: background-color .18s ease, transform .18s ease; } #ivy-article-dock .iad-submit svg { width: 17px; height: 17px; } #ivy-article-dock .iad-submit:hover { background: rgba(255,255,255,.75); } #ivy-article-dock .iad-submit:disabled { cursor: progress; opacity: .65; } #ivy-article-dock .iad-status { color: var(--iad-ink); font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4; } #ivy-article-dock a:focus-visible, #ivy-article-dock button:focus-visible, #ivy-article-dock input:focus-visible { outline: 2px solid var(--iad-gold) !important; outline-offset: 3px; } #ivy-article-dock[data-near-end="true"] .iad-next { border-color: rgba(135,105,60,.66); } #ivy-article-dock .iad-sr { position: absolute; width: 1px; height: 1px; padding: 0; margin: -1px; overflow: hidden; clip: rect(0,0,0,0); white-space: nowrap; border: 0; } @media (hover: hover) and (pointer: fine) { #ivy-article-dock 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.iad-link:hover { transform: translateY(-3px); border-color: rgba(255,255,255,.98); box-shadow: 0 21px 45px -12px rgba(19,36,53,.34), 0 7px 16px -8px rgba(19,36,53,.25), inset 0 1px 0 #fff, inset 0 -1px 0 rgba(255,255,255,.50); } #ivy-article-dock .iad-link:active { transform: translateY(-1px); } #ivy-article-dock .iad-submit:active { transform: scale(.96); } } @media (max-width: 720px) { #ivy-article-dock { --iad-edge: 8px; --iad-bottom: 12px; } #ivy-article-dock .iad-link { min-width: 44px; width: 44px; min-height: 44px; height: 44px; padding: 10px; border-radius: 50%; } #ivy-article-dock .iad-direction { display: none; } #ivy-article-dock .iad-center { width: calc(100% - 120px); } #ivy-article-dock .iad-form { height: 44px; } #ivy-article-dock .iad-field { height: 44px; } #ivy-article-dock .iad-input { height: 42px; padding: 9px; } #ivy-article-dock .iad-input::placeholder { font-size: 11px; } #ivy-article-dock .iad-submit { flex-basis: 36px; width: 36px; height: 38px; } 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